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personal ponds.

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:32 am
by Fisherman_max
i myself have fished many personal ponds in my day. i have fished ponds with monster rainbows, or bass or and mixture of all warmwater fish. all of this has promted me and my dad to build our own pond on our land. i was just wondering how i could get a hold of some food, a.k.a minnows etc. to put in my pond to feed the bass i will be stocking it with. also is there anyway i could just buy the bass because transporting caught fish can be difficult.

RE:personal ponds.

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:35 am
by leahcim_dahc
The linky below doesn't directly answer your question, but may be of interest.

http://wdfw.wa.gov/fish/trnsport.htm


Chad

RE:personal ponds.

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:26 am
by A9
You need to contact the WDFW if your going to do any stocking I believe...

RE:personal ponds.

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:29 am
by EastsideRedneck
Bass Pro and Cabela's both sell automatic feeders for that purpose.

I wouldn't doubt what Sam said though... this state practices (King Co. in particular) emminent domain over personal property to an almost Orwellian level.

RE:personal ponds.

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:12 am
by fishnislife
You can order just about any type of fingerling species online. Do a search. A lot of those websites have suggestions on healthy pond building as well. But like the previous guys stated, definitely check the regs.


fishnislife

RE:personal ponds.

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:05 am
by cavdad45
Ray Scott has a book out covering the best ways to design, build, stock, and maintain small ponds. Another good resource is Oklahoma's Department of Fish and Game www.wildlifedepartment.com They have quite a few pdf pamphlets on private waters.

RE:personal ponds.

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:19 pm
by Fisherman_max
thanks, i will defanetly check and see if it would be legal haha

RE:personal ponds.

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:17 pm
by A9
It is legal, but there are certain things you must do to get the WDFW to stock your ponds with fish...

RE:personal ponds.

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:52 pm
by Fisherman_max
well if anything they would'nt stock them, we would buy from a dealer or catch them ourselves and cut out the middle man haha

RE:personal ponds.

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:57 pm
by cavdad45
Fisherman_max wrote:well if anything they would'nt stock them, we would buy from a dealer or catch them ourselves and cut out the middle man haha
If you catch them yourself to stock, you stand a good chance of importing disease and parasites into your pond. It usually requires a complete kill to correct and then it will take a couple more years after restocking before you can really fish it and disturb the balance. You can lose all your money and eventually get it back, if you lose those years you can never get those back.

RE:personal ponds.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:04 pm
by Fisherman_max
your right, my friends have a pond that has been there for years. and all of their fish reproduce naturally, these include bluegill, catfish and smallmouth bass

RE:personal ponds.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:05 pm
by JayBoy
question for max,

How do you plan on making your structures for the Lm bass. Have you planned anything, are u importing lillys and seaweed? What about the botttom structure?

RE:personal ponds.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:36 pm
by A9
One tip for people for bottom structure: christmas trees. A writer from Field and Stream did a whole article about 2 years ago about how you can literally go out right after christmas, pick up all the ones people don't want (pretty much as many as you want), tie some bricks or cinder blocks to them, and then sink em in a spot where you know they will always be. They say that they will develop some algae, thus attracting smaller fish, then the fish that eat the smaller fish, and then all the way up to the big bass we catch. Could work out really well.

RE:personal ponds.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:54 pm
by cavdad45
Sam Kafelafish wrote:One tip for people for bottom structure: christmas trees. A writer from Field and Stream did a whole article about 2 years ago about how you can literally go out right after christmas, pick up all the ones people don't want (pretty much as many as you want), tie some bricks or cinder blocks to them, and then sink em in a spot where you know they will always be. They say that they will develop some algae, thus attracting smaller fish, then the fish that eat the smaller fish, and then all the way up to the big bass we catch. Could work out really well.
A Christmas tree won't stay anchored with cinder blocks or bricks. They just float back up to the top or suspend and drift. Brake rotors from a junk yard are my weapons of choice when sinking Christmas trees. I've done a few.

RE:personal ponds.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:46 pm
by EastsideRedneck
This leads in to a question that has been buggin me for a while: Are we prohibited from, say, putting the aforementioned X-mas tree or other structure in a place we choose on a WDFW controlled lake?

RE:personal ponds.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:27 pm
by iPodrodder
EastsideRedneck wrote:This leads in to a question that has been buggin me for a while: Are we prohibited from, say, putting the aforementioned X-mas tree or other structure in a place we choose on a WDFW controlled lake?
I don't know the answer to this, but I can say that I have seen many people sink these trees under their private dock on a WDFW, and I haven't heard of any fine or adverse reaction. Maybe its just for homeowners, maybe they just didn't get caught.

RE:personal ponds.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:39 pm
by cavdad45
Reduce, Reuse, Recycle

I never asked about the legality. They would probably want me to spend $30,000 on an environmental impact study, $15,000 for a review, $15,000 for a study of the review, $20,000 for a study of the study of the review study, $25,000 for a review of the study of the study of the review study, and then $.......

Putting A Tree In Your Favorite Fishing Hole....Priceless

RE:personal ponds.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:47 pm
by EastsideRedneck
cavdad45 wrote:Reduce, Reuse, Recycle

I never asked about the legality. They would probably want me to spend $30,000 on an environmental impact study, $15,000 for a review, $15,000 for a study of the review, $20,000 for a study of the study of the review study, $25,000 for a review of the study of the study of the review study, and then $.......
I guess in this case its better to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission... :-" I have pondered the Bill Dance pvc pipe structure kits for making own "hot spot." I may have to give this a litle more thought. At least it would be a little more inconspicuous than hauling a X-mas tree across the lake from the boat launch.

RE:personal ponds.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:50 pm
by A9
EastsideRedneck wrote: At least it would be a little more inconspicuous than hauling a X-mas tree across the lake from the boat launch.
Do it really early in the morning. Otherwise people will think your just dumping illegally.

RE:personal ponds.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:00 pm
by travislikesfishing
how big are u making this pond