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Re: We knew it was coming, Washington State lead ban for fis

Post by Anglinarcher » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:57 pm

So, will it be legal?

You are focused on Steelhead, and they are great fish. Still, what about weighted swim bait hooks, etc. That so many of us use.

PS, one source for steel head jigs does not make brass jigs commercially available to all.

I wonder if one of the bill,s sponsor owns stock.

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Re: We knew it was coming, Washington State lead ban for fis

Post by Anglinarcher » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:01 pm

One thing is for sure. No matter which side you are on, our representatives should hear from us.

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Re: We knew it was coming, Washington State lead ban for fis

Post by CRW » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:13 pm

Anglinarcher wrote: So, will it be legal?.
Well in mind yes, how are they going to know which type of brass I have.
Anglinarcher wrote:You are focused on Steelhead, and they are great fish. Still, what about weighted swim bait hooks, etc. That so many of us use.
Well I don't think the companys will just give up, they will most likely use Tungsten. Cost??
Anglinarcher wrote:PS, one source for steel head jigs does not make brass jigs commercially available to all.

I wonder if one of the bill,s sponsor owns stock.
Well there is several suppliers for brass jigs, and or supplies, so I think that part will be OK

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Re: We knew it was coming, Washington State lead ban for fis

Post by CRW » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:17 pm

Anglinarcher wrote:Lead riffle bullets are not allowed in any area the Condor may be encountered.

That would be most of the state. No science backed that up either.

If your friends are using bullets with lead cores then it is just a matter of time.

Well after reading about it, it is lead hunting ammo that is banned, not everyday ammo, that is why they can buy cases at a time with out problem.

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Re: We knew it was coming, Washington State lead ban for fis

Post by Anglinarcher » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:21 pm

Remember that lead is cheap but brass requires machine work. All other heavy metals require super high heat and are very costly. Is it the intent only the rich be able to afford TACKLE?

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Re: We knew it was coming, Washington State lead ban for fis

Post by Anglinarcher » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:23 pm

CRW wrote:
Anglinarcher wrote:Lead riffle bullets are not allowed in any area the Condor may be encountered.

That would be most of the state. No science backed that up either.

If your friends are using bullets with lead cores then it is just a matter of time.

Well after reading about it, it is lead hunting ammo that is banned, not everyday ammo, that is why they can buy cases at a time with out problem.
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So, does this change your point of view?

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Re: We knew it was coming, Washington State lead ban for fis

Post by CRW » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:34 pm

Anglinarcher wrote:Remember that lead is cheap but brass requires machine work. All other heavy metals require super high heat and are very costly. Is it the intent only the rich be able to afford TACKLE?

It might be going that way anyways :thumbdown

Lead is cheap and plentiful. Tungsten is pricey, , I understand it takes 6200 degs to melt Tungsten, which will make the cost go up. But what I am wondering is how plentiful is Tungsten?? ( Yes I know it is used in light bulbs, but they use very small amounts.)

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Re: We knew it was coming, Washington State lead ban for fis

Post by CRW » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:36 pm

Anglinarcher wrote:One thing is for sure. No matter which side you are on, our representatives should hear from us.

Don't disagree.

Has anybody got a return email?? Just wondering where some of the reps stand.

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Re: We knew it was coming, Washington State lead ban for fis

Post by natetreat » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:57 pm

I'm pretty sure that they're all snowed in at the moment, I sent mine just a few days ago as soon as this thread started. It was the first I'd heard of it. I doubt they'll get back to us at all, we'll just have to wait until they ignore us and make it law.

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Re: We knew it was coming, Washington State lead ban for fis

Post by CRW » Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:04 pm

natetreat wrote:I'm pretty sure that they're all snowed in at the moment, I sent mine just a few days ago as soon as this thread started. It was the first I'd heard of it. I doubt they'll get back to us at all, we'll just have to wait until they ignore us and make it law.


Well there is still time for anyone that hasn't.

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Re: We knew it was coming, Washington State lead ban for fis

Post by Anglinarcher » Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:27 pm

CRW wrote:
Anglinarcher wrote:One thing is for sure. No matter which side you are on, our representatives should hear from us.

Don't disagree.

Has anybody got a return email?? Just wondering where some of the reps stand.
My reps are opposed to it for various reasons.

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Re: We knew it was coming, Washington State lead ban for fis

Post by Anglinarcher » Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:32 pm

CRW wrote:
Anglinarcher wrote:Remember that lead is cheap but brass requires machine work. All other heavy metals require super high heat and are very costly. Is it the intent only the rich be able to afford TACKLE?

It might be going that way anyways :thumbdown

Lead is cheap and plentiful. Tungsten is pricey, , I understand it takes 6200 degs to melt Tungsten, which will make the cost go up. But what I am wondering is how plentiful is Tungsten?? ( Yes I know it is used in light bulbs, but they use very small amounts.)
It is considered semi-rare. I use Tungsten powder in some lures I make. It cost $40/Pound. I can get lead for $4

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Re: We knew it was coming, Washington State lead ban for fis

Post by sickbayer » Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:58 pm

..well lead is still a bad substance no matter what side of the fence you sit on in this perticular subject. I have no problem with the ban, i dont drift fish but i sure use more lead than most as i use my downriggers so Yes it will suck. But to remove something outta the evenvironment that is poisonous, i am all for it.

Anglinarcher wrote: Is it the intent only the rich be able to afford TACKLE?
Well i guess i can afford it.
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Re: We knew it was coming, Washington State lead ban for fis

Post by Anglinarcher » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:03 pm

Even if there is no science to support your position?

We don't agree. But instead of telling you you don't belong on this forum I will suggest that you also tell your reps.

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Re: We knew it was coming, Washington State lead ban for fis

Post by sickbayer » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:10 pm

you have obviously never been to a hazmat programme have you? If your telling me that lead is not bad for you i really cannot argue with you. Granted im not eating spilt shot or licking lead paint, but the fact of the matter is over exposure equals lead poisoning. here is a simple web look up
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_poisoning" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I never told you "you dont belong on here so get off your high horse mate"

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Re: We knew it was coming, Washington State lead ban for fis

Post by Anglinarcher » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:18 pm

But you applauded when your bud told someone else they didn't belong.

Would seem that you need to clean the crap from your house before you tell me to clean mine, mate.

Yes, taught hazmat, taken hazwopper, degree in chemistry.

But You are so much smarter then I am, so call your rep!

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Re: We knew it was coming, Washington State lead ban for fis

Post by MarkFromSea » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:38 pm

MarkFromSea wrote: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/DistrictFinder/Default.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Here's the link I used earlier to ask my reps to "kill the bill", 2241. It's very easy to use. It contacted all 3 of my state reps, state house and senate. Just enter name, address, ph #. It'll hook ya up. I liked what Nate provided also, that gets you to the committee, better to kill it in committee than fight it in the House.
For those that prefer to use lead for fishing purposes, I've re-posted this painless link.
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Re: We knew it was coming, Washington State lead ban for fis

Post by sickbayer » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:04 pm

Anglinarcher wrote:But you applauded when your bud told someone else they didn't belong.

[b]Hang on here " dogfish4pan" previous posts fit bodo's characterisation's pretty good[/b]. =D>

Would seem that you need to clean the crap from your house before you tell me to clean mine, mate.

I have no crap in my house as i can afford tungston :cheers:

Yes, taught hazmat, taken hazwopper, degree in chemistry.
[-X And you still believe lead is a harmless substance is mind boggling

But You are so much smarter then I am, so call your rep!
Nope I am just me [thumbsup]

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Re: We knew it was coming, Washington State lead ban for fis

Post by CRW » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:18 pm

sickbayer wrote:[I have no crap in my house as i can afford tungston :cheers:

Well you might be able to afford it, but can't spell it. [flapper]

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Re: We knew it was coming, Washington State lead ban for fis

Post by BassDood » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:27 pm

If ingested, lead is bad. Lead in of itself , i.e. in a river, on the bottom of a lake, it's inert. It poses no threat. It's simple. Do some research

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